Who's Cashing In Ford's Massive GoFundMe Earnings And Dark Money To Smear Kavanaugh
Miss Boise Ford has now raised this is pretty amazing five hundred and thirty
thousand dollars on a GoFundMe page which does raise some important
questions who set the page up the site just indicates that it was quote
sponsored by her neighbors and colleagues and isn't it fair to ask with
another long week in front of us has this GoFundMe created a new incentive
for accusers and are we witnessing a new precedent involving major financial
rewards for people who make such claims to answer these questions let's bring in
constitutional law expert Fox News contributor Jonathan Turley Jonathan
what's your reaction we the GoFundMe page first is there an incentive issue
here that should be concerning also with the swarmers and the in the senate they
apparently got chip flake to you know put on a pair of depends and like Rhonda
Kunz of twenty minutes later so are we creating
bad incentives here well you know I wrote about this for the first time in
the hill newspaper when lanny davis announced sort of rolled out a GoFundMe
type page but for michael cohen and suddenly a huge amounts of money were
put into that account and as an attorney it really struck me is quite odd because
you could have people effectively in a market for witnesses you can buy a
witness effectively by funding them as long as they're saying the type of thing
that you want them to say so michael cohen goes out and says i'm now you know
out to get the president I'm going to implicate him in crimes and money pours
into this account as his attorney flogs the internet site for donations and
we're seeing that now more and more where people essentially invest in key
witnesses so that they become part of this legal process by making it more
likely that folks are going to not only take a certain approach to testimony but
they essentially are competing against each other in this market you're going
to get more nation's threat you are and so this
whole aspect of GoFundMe is relatively new and really the our ethical rules
haven't really caught up to that you know we we have all types of rules about
the classic situation where someone gives you money for testimony but this
is a new creature for us this idea that millions of people can effectively pay
you to take a particular position yeah well Jonathan there's two hundred
thousand dollars that has been raised in an account for her security she's very
concerned about her security apparently so
two hundred thousand dollars in that and then the five hundred and thirty
thousand in this general page and just for people who missed this there was a
moment where her lawyers were they were asked a question about is someone paying
for your attorneys fees let's watch this I believe you said it hasn't been paid
for yet is that correct
let me put an end to this mystery her lawyers have paid for her polygraph
doctor for do you expect the price of that polygraph to be passed on to you
I'm not sure yet I haven't taken a look at all of the costs involved in this I'm
aware that there's been several GoFundMe sites that I haven't had a chance to
figure out how to manage those because I've never had one I'm sort of remember
what go fund me go fund B do with that both occur counsel are doing this pro
bono we are not being paid and we have no expectation of being five hundred
thirty thousand dollars is that to cover the gas from Rehoboth Beach to
Washington I mean what are we the Koch I mean the cokes were free I think got to
here I mean what where does that money go on I mean I think this is a
legitimate question to ask no one wanted to touch of course the character of of
the accuser for a variety of reasons you don't want to victimize a victim or an
alleged victim and I get that but we don't have journalists who were
interested in in and you know what was she like in high school I mean is that
not relevant when you're making an accusation thirty six no one wanted to
touch that but on this it would seem that everybody should be
interested in this if someone is making a lot of money off of this particular
case yeah we're in a very strange place right now ethically you know GoFundMe
sites and then similar sites and I really do help people pay for important
public interest work and projects so I'm not criticizing that but we really do
need to have some type of standard as attorney set these up in terms of where
the money goes to what you can say in order to induce people to get to give
money to these sites those are really raising some new questions and I think
they're pretty darn troubling well there could be fraud involved also correct
with a GoFundMe you know appeal there could be some type of fraudulent intent
I mean fraud in the inducement I mean there could all be all sorts of things
involved here but again it is an it is new territory Jonathan Turley thank you
so much thank you I want to know where that money's going so badly it's pro
bono that means free let's not get the money later I am still a lawyer oh these
delay tactics and eleventh-hour accusations against Kavanaugh seem a
little too convenient at least to me and that's probably because they are they're
well coordinated and extremely well-funded America rising a Republican
research group has been diving into the latest anti Cavanaugh efforts and found
there is one particular bad actor behind many of the smears former Hillary
Clinton and Eric Holder staffer Brian Fallon joining us now to navigate the
web of anti Cavanaugh dark money is the researcher who compiled this report
Alexandra Wilks and on set with me is former Clinton advisor and pollster Mark
Penn Alexandra give us a rundown of how this group it's called demand justice
which is led by Fallon is the tip of the anti Kavanagh spear so in judge
Cavanaugh's great opening statement he was mocked by some liberals by claiming
or for claiming that there's this calculated effort to smear him and he's
not wrong the Liberals have been leaving all kinds of breadcrumbs for us to trace
so as you mentioned Brian Fallon he found a demand justice he was the face
of Hilary Clinton campaign you saw him all
over the 2016 effort after that campaign wrapped up in the spring of 2018 he
founded demand justice and his goal was to defeat whoever president Trump
decided to choose as his nominee for the Supreme Court so again we're dealing
with an organization that didn't even look to see what qualifications this
person would have they didn't care they were gonna defeat anyone he goes to
George Soros for first and seed money he gets it and I'll let you I'll let you
jump in before I tell the next part of the story no so Soros Soros then comes
in and we don't know how much he gave him or do we do we have those facts well
so here's the thing um you know for as much as Democrats like to lament dark
money and by dark money we're talking about money that comes from 501 C 4
organizations these are contributions that are unlimited to these
organizations and undisclosed these groups were popularized by the great
decision and citizens united you know so we're talking about Democrats who
apparently deplore dark money but they have set up not one level not two levels
but three levels of secrecy in setting up this project five demand justice is a
project of the 16:30 foundation those are both C fours and it's partnered with
Hillary Clinton's onward C 4 as well that means that all of their filings are
obscured within each other's tax returns and we can't see them ah so that's the
rub mark you've thought and spoken about how some of this could and I say could
backfire on the Democrats I know you're gonna do some new polling over the
weekend look I don't think it's a surprise that there are groups on the
Democratic side they genuinely opposed this domini and the entire list of
Federalist Society dominates and there are groups on the Republican side we are
here because a professor wrote a letter and senator Feinstein wrongly held that
letter but that's really why we're here and I think the public wants some
certainty here questions have been raised even
President Trump says the professor's testimony was credible and I think
probably Senator fake did the right thing maybe this is you know this is
supposed to just take a week maybe it'll just confirm maybe it'll turn up
something new but I think people wanted more certainty before this vote and I
think they're gonna get that this Brian Fallon knows particularly well obviously
is partisan but to say things like this as he did in
a tweet yesterday if the Senate ignores Ford and tries to muscle an attempted
rapist onto the court not even allege an attempted rapist onto the court they
will pay dearly this November focusing on Collins and Gardiner Cavanaugh will
not serve for life do you think that's good language look I think that we are
searching for some national unity here quotes like that are not going to get us
there I agree with that I hope that after this investigation and the vote we
can come together and stop this kind of rhetoric all right guys thanks so much
thank you god bless you and God bless america
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