JUDY WOODRUFF: It's a very difficult Thanksgiving  holiday in California for tens of thousands
  of residents there.
  While the fire in southern part of the state  is said to be contained, there's fear that
  rain could lead to mudslides in the coming  days.
  Meanwhile, in the northern part of the state,  the Camp Fire is still not fully out, and
  it's left a burn scar, so to speak, that's  larger than the city of San Jose.
  Many people are still stuck with temporary  shelters and few housing options.
  Raquel Maria Dillon of public media KQED has  been reporting from the area around Chico.
  And I spoke with her by phone just a short  time ago.
  Started by asking what she's witnessed.
  RAQUEL MARIA DILLON, KQED: There's just so  many of them.
  I think the folks who are worse off are stuck  at this Wal-Mart parking lot in R.V.s or an
  empty field and tents.
  And when I left there earlier today, the rain  was just beginning to come down for real,
  and it's a low-lying spot, and there's a lot  of concern in the community for getting those
  folks out of there, or just helping them get  through the bad weather.
  People are putting wooden pallets underneath  the tents and getting tarps out.
  I got the sense that some of those folks were  really living on the edge when they were back
  home in Paradise.
  One guy told me straight up he was homeless.
  Another gentleman was telling me about his  asthma and his medical conditions, and he
  really shouldn't be sleeping out in a tent.
  But I will say, the vast majority of the evacuees  are crashing with family or friends on couches,
  in people's R.V.s parked in driveways and  other options like that, but people -- families
  are split up, and it's a very stressful time  and their situations will not last forever.
  JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, who is in charge of providing  facilities for these people who don't have
  a home or a place to go anymore?
  I mean, is there a visible organized presence  doing the organizing?
  RAQUEL MARIA DILLON: Yes, FEMA has opened  up an old shuttered Sears department store.
  And people pick a number on the way in.
  They wait a little while.
  They get their numbers called and then they  wait a long time again to connect to services.
  There's nonprofits there.
  It's mainly FEMA and the state office of emergency  services.
  And there is aid available, but there just  aren't enough homes, motel and hotel rooms
  to put up all the people who fled the fire.
  JUDY WOODRUFF: But you said people have to  wait, that they come, and you said they take
  a number and then they wait.
  RAQUEL MARIA DILLON: Exactly.
  It's a bureaucracy.
  Some of the people I spoke with, you know,  couldn't verify their addresses or didn't
  have the right paperwork.
  I spoke to one couple that had gotten a voucher  going into a motel room, but they came back
  to tie up some other loose ends.
  They had forgotten their FEMA number and had  to go back.
  And so it's a bureaucracy.
  And I think people who might be struggling  with other issues might have a hard time navigating
  that bureaucracy and need a lot of help.
  JUDY WOODRUFF: So, what's going to happen,  Raquel, on Thanksgiving, tomorrow?
  Is there any -- is there any hope for a better  living situation by then, or are they -- what's
  going to happen?
  RAQUEL MARIA DILLON: Well, the FEMA center  will be open 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. tomorrow.
  There's a lot of organizations in town, in  the town of Chico, that are hosting dinners
  and making sure that people are well-fed and  taken care of on such an important holiday.
  But big picture is, Chico has a housing crisis.
  It's a city of 86,000 people that has poured  out their generosity for these fire evacuees.
  But I found a report from last year that said  the vacancy rate in Chico is 1.9 percent.
  And it might have even gone down further this  year.
  So in terms of long-term futures for these  people to stay, it's a real problem.
  JUDY WOODRUFF: It sounds like there's just  no immediate housing solution for many of
  these people.
  RAQUEL MARIA DILLON: Correct.
  And some of my colleagues at KQED have done  some interesting reporting about FEMA has
  80 trailers at the McClellan Air Force Base  right outside of Sacramento, but they are
  not designated for this particular emergency.
  It just takes a long time to find the right  place to put them.
  You have to have sewer and electricity.
  And it has to be a environmentally sound place  for housing for families.
  So that's a real challenge.
  And it's just moving a lot slower than anyone  had thought.
  JUDY WOODRUFF: A really, really tough situation.
  Raquel Maria Dillon with KQED, thank you very  much.
  RAQUEL MARIA DILLON: Thank you.
  
        
      
 
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