this week in the meantime you're probably aware right now that the South
of North Korean leaders met overnight along the Demilitarized Zone and now the
advance team is heading out to Singapore potentially dotting eyes and crossing
the T's on a meeting maybe on June 12th as originally scheduled let's go to the
former Assistant Secretary of State for George W Bush Robert Charles never did
very good to have you what do you make of these developments well I think we're
we're all in a watch and C moment here this is a this is a long game you have
to remember that we're dealing with a country that for the last 68 years has
really become more and more virulent in their not only nuclear ambitions but
also their achievements and and it's going to be a slow process walking them
back I think that there's no surprise here this is going to be a stop and go
stop and go it's a long game but what you're seeing again is I think President
Trump and Mike Pompeo and the entire team is really thinking about creating
new thinking and and that's what we want here I mean we've seen developments we
haven't seen in decades occurring right now so we watch closely we we go move
for move man-to-man and and see where it takes us you know on Saturday I get an
idea that they as angry as they were getting that is the North Koreans and by
extend to the Chinese about the Trump administration I don't think ever in a
million years did they envision the president would turn around and say oh
no but we're not having the meeting and that caught them off guard not going to
be wrong but what do you make of that that they were not prepared for that
much like the old Soviet Union wasn't prepared for Ronald Reagan walking out
of that Reykjavik conference with Mikhail Gorbachev yeah Neil your analogy
is apt very appropriate you know this is a chess game in a way and each step
along the way the president has kept them off-balance he's also kept China
off-balance and think about it from the very beginning he comes in and he breaks
all the glass and he starts talking in pretty strong terms about the reality
that no president recently has talked about in a way that that really makes
people sit up and listen the next thing he does is when Kim jong-un
suggests a summit within 24 hours he accepts it so that's like you start a
chess game and you're going pawn to Bryant and then over sudden Newcastle
that's that's a completely different thing and now you've done it again he he
said you know what if you're not serious then I'm not serious we can we can go
about creating more pressure we can go about talking how the future will look
without this summit all of a sudden they didn't want that discussion and I think
China believe it or not is actually being edged in the same direction but it
takes a long time to walk people back from something where their identity is
tied up in nukes you know um you're the diplomacy expert certainly I'm not so I
I'm curious about the world China is playing near secretary because China is
a very wealthy nation and a wealthy benefactor and yet all the economic
pressure is on us to help the North Koreans and not the Chinese and that
just seems screwed up to me well the Chinese right now really 90 percent of
the North Korean economy depends on China in one way or another right so
they're clearly very tight at the hip here so but but the other side of this
is for the first time Trump has said and he's really saying it to China as much
as he is to to North Korea he said trade and security will be tied together and
we are not happy and not content and will not be content with a country that
has tested a 35 kiloton yield nuclear weapon maybe maybe even a 100 kiloton
weapon which is what destroyed their mountain and has put an ICBM up in an
orbit that's higher than the space station why do you think they're doing
this obviously they came to the table and are frantically rearranging things
on the threat of a canceled meeting for something and I yeah all the time trying
to figure it out well I think they're really at the peak of an a frame this
was a very flat roof up until Trump now it's an a-frame you will either accept
the idea that there's a goose that laid a golden egg that is willing to talk to
you and we are willing to give you benefits and move you from the Dark Ages
into the bright light and we're willing to work with you or you're gonna see a
ramped up frankly I suspect deterrent military engagement sanctions I mean
we're not going to take anything off the table all
sudden what was always hypothetical is suddenly very real with Donald Trump and
this to me is the essence of how he operates he is putting reality on the
table and staying with great authenticity you're either with us or
you're gonna face the consequences of not being with us and China for the
first time is seeing this I I would even argue and again you're the expert in the
business world not me but I would even argue that the ZTE piece here which
everybody is objecting to why how could you let China keep this company going
maybe there's a there's a faint within a faint within a faint maybe deep within
there's a deep strategic understanding and I believe that the trade off is very
real no okay I'll take security and give China and North Korea a little bit of
economic benefit yeah no there's only something new that of course is et the
big Chinese telecom concern that was found to be spying on US espionage it
was sanctioned up the yin-yang and all of a sudden now we're working on
a deal that will protect them there's got to be that's it for tat there but
it's too soon to tell secretary thank you they're over a month
thank you pleasure thank you all right so we'll keep an eye on that keep an eye
on what this team that's heading over to Singapore is going to do what it wants
to outline the eyes it wants to cross and then the guys I think you dot it's
the t's you cross when they get there we'll keep you up to date on that
keep you up to date on what's happening in Texas right now the governor there
Greg Abbott hinting he could support some measures of gun control or at least
reining in a gun use in his state his lieutenant governor has a slightly
different perspective or does he he's nice all right well the president was
tweeting this morning about the heroic teacher in Indiana who somehow managed
to tackle a student suspected of opening fire and in Indiana middle school saying
and I quote thanks to their very teacher and hero adjacent semen of Noblesville
Indiana for his heroic act and saving so many precious young lives as quick and
automatic action is being talked about all over the world with us right now
ever since that Santa Fe school shooting he's been in the news as is governor the
Lieutenant Governor a beautiful state of Texas dan Patrick governor very good to
have you back as always thank you Neil maybe you can clarify a couple of things
from me sir including whether there's a slight difference or gap between your
position on guns and the governor's position on guns governor Abbott seemed
to be open in a variety of meetings he was having this week on this subject
post the shooting to say that he would be open to some sort of action on guns
didn't specify what they would be but presumably he would look at stronger
regulations for registering guns etcetera
speedier background checks so that if someone is a dangerous person or deemed
that way authorities would get that information
more quickly how do you feel about that well first of all I was in all of those
meetings Neil with with the governor and spent a long day yesterday an emotional
day with the families two funerals and two visitations and first want to tell
you Neil that Texas is strong we've we have endured along ten months with a
hurricane the church shooting and now this shooting and when we go to our
knees it's in prayer not because anyone's taking us to our knees and and
no one's going to do that detectors these families are amazing and we have
heroes here as well as you know from this week in terms of guns the governor
I look we work so closely together I think we're the best team in America
quite frankly on many levels for our economy and for all the issues that we
face in Texas we have a robust state as you know leading the country and on guns
we're looking at common-sense solutions I said at the press conference on the
first day Neal that we need to be sure that gun owners which I am we that we
are held accountable to keep our guns out of the hands of children in Texas we
already have a all that it's a crime if you allow a
child to get an unloaded weapon we may need to strengthen some of those laws
but if you're a gun owner you have to be accountable to protect your guns and
keep them away from children so we're looking at that number two we're looking
at making sure we have reports on stolen guns we have a lot of guns stolen we
want to be sure we know where those guns are going who may have them and that we
have a good reporting process and we're also looking at some other timelines
after someone after due process you know what a court of law has been potentially
asked to turn over their guns how many days that is and of course all
responsible gun owners like we are want good background checks so I don't think
there's any any daylight I don't think there's going to be any other thought
except that we need to protect people but we need to protect our Second
Amendment rights both governor Abbott and I are very firm on that and so what
you can get a gun at 21 which is I think is the case in Texas now well there are
a lot of things being talked about Neal but and the governor are working
together through this weekend to lay out a plan of before school starts again and
late August but when we met with the families this week Neal here's what here
were the three things that they talked about most number one they want to
harden the targets at their schools we can have all the behavioral health and
mental health screenings and that's very important that's going to be a big part
of this identifying these shooters and advance to the best of our ability but
we have to keep guns out of schools we have too many entrances to our school
some schools have you know anywhere in America you can walk in any door to a
school so even if you screen someone if they have six or seven opportunities to
get into a school with a gun that makes it dangerous so we have to look at that
and harden these targets to their best of our ability obviously plenty of exits
to get out but they want our schools to be safer number two they want more law
enforcement in Texas we have over a thousand school districts new over five
and a half million students almost in public schools in Texas 150 of our
thousand plus school districts have armed police already school police
forces we have another 172 District's Neal that have teachers that carry we've
had that law in the books for a long time
teachers can carry in Texas with training so that will probably be
expanded it was almost unanimous in these meetings Neil this week especially
with the victims families that they want teachers that are trained to be able to
carry so we need more law enforcement Hardin those targets keep the guns out
of schools from those who would come in and harm others as sensible as some of
the gun issues I talked about and then of course a bigger focus on mental
health issues on the students who could be potential killers you would also talk
early in the week governor about violent video games the rampant culture abortion
and Ireland now of course today looking like it will allow abortions now we
don't have final votes out of that country you say that this has sent a
message of devaluing life but all these forces governor are in effect worldwide
and and if you look at violent video games they're provided almost everywhere
including our own country the only differentiator and this again is just
coming from gunden opponents is that there are 300 million guns in this
country wait wait wait too many you say what I say that guns in the hands of
law-abiding citizens protect us from from those who would harm us if you look
at gun violence across America in many areas it's down in Texas about about one
out of every 17 or 18 people over the age of 20 why didn't happen so much here
when the same forces that played the same argument at devalue in life and in
the increase in all the stuff that you worry about including Willie smiling
games movies etc all paramount across the globe but why disproportionately
here you know I can't compare and I've traveled to many places in the world and
I'm not going to try and compare cuz it's not apples to apples different
countries to different countries and total culture and family values and all
of those issues but now someone has to step back and take a look at where we
are as a culture I did talk about how we've devalued life through abortion
we've devalued life through the family unit where many many children grow up in
a home without any father any parents in charge except maybe a really
hard-working mom who's trying to play both roles and
thank God for them we also have a culture kneel where the estimates are by
the psychiatrist and psychologist and over 95 percent of all teenagers watch a
couple of hours of video games every day and more than half of those are violent
games and we're and we're in a very open society a much larger society than many
of these countries that you talk about that there's a it's a little bit easier
to control the access and control some of those situations so Neil it's not
about the guns it's no different than you know when someone's killed by a
drunk driver we don't blame the car we say we got to get that guy from behind
the wheel and we have to get them to a program it's it is not the gun had not
been for a gun and in Sutherland Springs and and that gentleman Steve was with us
this week talking to the parents and the victims of Santa Fe if it had not been
for him and his rifle that shooter at that church may have killed others right
we want in Texas we believe in our Second Amendment but we believe our
right to defend ourselves we're not going to take that opportunity away from
us to defend our families and to defend our students and so we need and and I
don't nothin is unanimous Neel but the victims that I've talked to the families
I've talked to the students I've talked to the parents go down the list and in
our meetings this week they want more law enforcement on our campuses harder
targets make it tougher to get a gun in school let's close all these doors are
open all over the school that anyone can walk in at any time they want more
teachers with training to be armed we're not backing away from our Second
Amendment rights we're saying we're saying our Second Amendment rights Neal
will help protect more students and that's where the governor and I are
definitely on the same page governor thank you very very much watch out oh
thank you thank you a lot of heroes here Neal in a very emotional day yesterday
and strong family standing on the rock of their faith and a community coming
together as we saw in Sutherland Springs as we saw during the hurricane and now
in Santa Fe incredible people in Texas that's why people by the millions are
coming here there's something special about Texas all right donar thank you
thank you very much a little more after this including the run up at gas prices
you probably noticed if you've been traveling this weekend get used to it
they can go so higher we're on it after this
when I was just uh though talking about this with lieutenant governor Texas Dan
Patrick as expected Ireland has voted to overturn its ban on abortion this is
coming in the prime minister's office there was a countrywide vote on this and
this despite an active rebuke and campaign on the part of the Catholic
Church one's very dominant 80% of Ireland residents are Catholic
nevertheless they ignored their church's preachings on this and have voted to
allow abortions in their country up to 12 weeks that is a very very big
development in Ireland again Ireland now banning what had been a ban on abortion
the only one that I know of across Europe that has has stuck this long
alright we'll keep you posted on that also keep me posted on something closer
to home gas and it's expensive and it's going up and
for 37 million Americans hitting the road
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