we begin with a Fox News Alert we are awaiting the arrival of a top North
Korean official at New York's John F Kennedy Airport North Korea vice
chairman kim yeongcheol is then expected to meet with Secretary of State Mike
Pompeo the White House continues to lay the groundwork now to revive a potential
summit on the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula we are watching all of
it as it makes news and it's live we'll bring it to you
this is outnumbered i'm harris faulkner here today Sandra Smith town hall editor
and Fox News contributor Katie Pavlich host of kennedy on fox business kennedy
and in the center seat today Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew
Napolitano outnumbered and ready to go so some of my closest friends
yes well North Korea's vice chairman kim yeongcheol as I just mentioned is on his
way to New York City expected to arrive within a couple of hours this afternoon
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is also expected in New York after the secretary
meets with President Trump at the White House this afternoon the latest moves as
the Trump administration works to hold that summit in Singapore with North
Korean dictator Kim Jong hoon as of now the date still on the calendar June 12th
the president canceled that meeting last week after hostile rhetoric from the
north but has since reopened the door to having it a short time ago we heard from
former US ambassador to the UN Governor Bill Richardson who is one of few
Americans to have direct negotiations with the north here he is you have to
set an agenda for the meeting and we have to narrow the gap between what we
consider a denuclearization and what the North Koreans considered
denuclearization let's be completely prepared because the North Koreans I've
negotiated with them they're relentless they're very focused and we have to be
focused too chief White House correspondent John Roberts at the White
House now John Harris good afternoon to you no meetings
like this are never a sure thing right up until the moment that the
cheerleaders get into the same room together but the thinking around the
White House here today is that the June 12th date for this summit really looks
like it could be on track the press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders
yesterday aboard Air Force One on the president's weights Tennessee said quote
the president's letter specifically said that we were open to the meeting at the
time and again we expect it to take place but we'll see what happens we are
going to be prepared if it takes place June 12th will certainly be prepared if
it for some reason takes place at a later date we'll be prepared for that as
well a lot of people think June 12th could happen
some people think might need to be delayed by a couple of days maybe a week
a lot of whether or not this goes forward will depend on meetings that
Mike Pompeo the Secretary of State is having with the man that you see right
there kim yong-chul he's going to be meeting with him in New
York City likely later on today tomorrow morning as well
he is the highest-ranking North Korean official to come to the United States in
18 years and likely that a person of his rank wouldn't come all the way here
unless there was a good chance of putting something together listen to
what the State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said yesterday this will
be the Secretary's third meeting with kim gyeong-cheol they've had obviously
very deep conversations where they've talked about a lot of detail about what
the United States expectations are I think it's important that we're going up
to New York I know the secretary looks forward to engaging engaging him in New
York pointed out as well that the rhetoric out of North Korea since the
president sent that letter last Thursday has been remarkably restrained and
Harris the one person that we have not heard from is the Deputy Foreign
Minister who really got things going when she said those intemperate things
about the vice president and then threatened a nuclear to nuclear
confrontation with the United States if these negotiations didn't bear fruit so
everyone playing nice at the moment and again
the the Secretary of State has met with kim yong-chul three times previously so
they know something of each other and we'll find out likely by this time
tomorrow whether they can get something done john roberts thank you very much so
john sets up the conversation for us Judge Andrew Napolitano with the facts
on the ground that things are moving well this general with whom secretary
Pompeo Pompeo is meeting is also the head of their intelligence services so
here's the equivalent of what Mike Pompeo was when he ran the CIA so when
having our it said this is the third time they're meeting this is the third
time they're meeting while Mike Pompeo is Secretary of State but it's not the
third time they've ever met because they met in the connection with their work as
being the head of intelligence agencies so they know each other here's the issue
what does Dee and John Robert spin this what does denuclearization mean there's
a an American expert this morning who said it will take 15 years for a total
denuclearization what will denuclearization whatever it
is satisfied Donald Trump that the American public can no longer be
threatened but give Kim some ability to say I can still defend ourselves well
what's interesting about that Katie is that it buys the time for North Korea to
figure out what that defense is going to look like that's not nuclear and you
know if this is the beginning of the conversation that's just it so maybe it
just buys time for both sides and that's why you've seen President Trump
repeatedly say don't worry Kim jong-un we will protect you you will be safe
because the North Korean regimes entire premise for having nuclear weapons is to
preserve the regime it's not to preserve the people of the country it's not to
protect the citizens is to protect the regime of Kim jong-un and his long
seated family in that position and so for a long time there's been this
enormous gap between what the United States wants which is complete
denuclearization what China wants we're just saying look you can push them to
get rid of nuclear weapons for bad purposes and threatening the rest of the
world but we don't actually think that you can ask them to completely
denuclearize and there are more of the same page with North Korea in that sense
where they're saying well we're willing to blow up a tunnel here a tunnel there
they've done in the past but when it comes to preserving the regime
it's gonna be a very tough sell to the North Koreans about how the United
States an adversary to them is going to protect them from getting slaughtered in
the streets like Gaddafi was yeah and a broader issue Kennedy for all this too
is we don't want them to be in a position to be able to sell those
weapons to others who would want them yeah like his friends in Iran they've
already been making transactions with Iran and with Pakistan unfortunately
that horse has already left the barn and they're really comfortable with the
international black-market when it comes to buying whatever it is they need
whether it's fissile material or you know other aides to emboldening their
nuclear program or you know oil and coal which they have gotten from China China
and some of their shrinking pool of allies but you know back to what Katie
was talking about this is a really specific dance because it's like when
someone is trapped in the wilderness for days and is starving but they can't eat
because they'll actually get very sick and could die and you know it's likely
that North Korea will want to gorge on you know the free market but the problem
is if that doesn't go as well as they want and if they want this deal set up
in stages and the beginning stages don't go to their liking and they're not
making as much money as they thought they could and they don't have as much
control over their society as they would like they are much more likely to back
out of future stages of the deal and you know that's one when people talk about
preparations they have to make sure there are stop gaps in place for the
United States so we don't get stuck in another phase or they'll produce civil
liberties yes they don't that's that's what unifies them the most precisely yes
some of the things we're watching for we know that there is that delegation from
the United States and the DMZ zone I mean they they they have put or DMZ I
should say put things in place now that are tangible for us to watch I think we
have to also take it to the right now because we've been talking so big
picture about this for so long and now we're coming down to minutes and hours
here we don't even know the exact timing of the meeting that's going to take
place behind between the North Korean dictator's right-hand man as he's known
as and and Mike Pompeo but when I was talking to Governor Richardson earlier
today who has a lot of background knowledge on dealing with North Koreans
he suggested it's time to let Mike Pompeo just take the lead here the
president and his team should just kind of sit back
well that's Mike Pompeo do his thing as you had just stated when we let off the
hour here this is he's done multiple meetings now listen he is a once spent
three days with him where we were doing seminars together he has a very very
savvy experienced guard speaking of Bill Richardson who I think gives in this
respect not democrat advice a Republican advice but good sound patriotic advice
the president the United States needs to know in advance what the agreements are
going to be and if they can't get agreements done by July 12th or June
12th there's no magic to that date and I agree with you that Mike Pompeo has to
have a long leash so to speak yeah you know the one thing I would wonder about
too you talk about that relationship based on three meetings but it's it's
more than what we know to have happened in recent years with with North Korean
leadership how important is it to have that relationship between our now
Secretary of State and the foreign official who's coming well remember that
foreign official could be changed like that
just that this this is a dictator who not only slaughtered the boy from the
University of Virginia I don't wanna get graphic he slaughtered his own uncle
missing as well correct but right now the leader that's in New York is a
four-star general is that I'm a two ranking person in all of North Korea
it's very important that Mike Pompeo has a great personality bonds with this I
would add to that that Mike Pompeo is experienced at the CIA is not just about
these three meetings he's had it's about the overall intelligence that he has
gathered as his position in the CIA which we saw when he met with kim
jeong-hoon before he was in confirmed as i kotnis have been here guys cuz i want
to set something up that's about to happen we've got the right subscribe
bill that's a controversial bill that lets terminally ill people be able to
have access and to utilize experimental drugs that are out there that perhaps
have not been looked at or approved by the FDA this is something that the White
House announced last Friday and it has been something that the president has
held as a priority and for the vice president as well
you know also what's interesting about this is that today as the president
we're anticipating to walk up in the in the White House and step up to that
lectern and and then to the table to the side they're in sinus bill today follows
that rally that the president just had in Nashville Tennessee where he talked
about taking a fresh look at health care issues so as that happens live we will
take you there let's come back though to the to the issue at hand and talk a
little bit more about what we think needs to be done before July 12th Katie
why the June 12 June 12 which is 13 days away it takes a day and a half to get
there so really we're looking at ten days that we have Matt between now and
then but it's important to go back to the beginning of this when the president
agreed to meet with kim jeong-hoon at the summit they actually said at the
beginning we are not putting any agreements on the table this is simply a
first step so there can be conditions that are put down on the table for
discussion but in terms of getting some kind of deal before that deadline I
think is ambitious and something in the White House hasn't actually talked about
whether they're gonna get there in ten days I don't know clearly people on the
date and said it's gonna either be June 12th or it could be delayed all right
some day I see no no downside to President Trump to delay this for two
weeks if Mike Pompeo in this North Korean general are sort of on a roll but
just need a little bit more well it's interesting because the president seems
to be married to dates and markers oh absolutely I think he's like that's also
because you've seen a Congress that when you wipe away a date they get nothing
done for of a wedding date and you know something that nigga now resonates in in
people's minds and it's very difficult to postpone a wedding you know when you
book the caterer and the band and you've already paid for the cake and there's
still some some love in the air even if one partner has pushed the other ends
around they're sold out surround they're out they're sold out I think this is it
just thinking that but we're gonna move on married to this date and it will
happen on June 12 or will not happen my president rusting slamming Democrats
over immigration ahead of the midterm elections is this
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