UNITED STATES SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN VISITED SPRINGFIELD
TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE EARLIER TODAY.
ORIGINALLY ELECTED IN 2012, WARREN IS THE FIRST WOMAN
SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS, BUT HER OUTSPOKEN NATURE HAS
GARNERED NATIONAL ATTENTION, POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, FENDING ON
YOUR POLITICS.
WARREN SAT DOWN WITH ME TO DISCUSS A WIDE RANGE OF ISSUES.
I STARTED BY ASKING THE SENATOR BUT THE BANKING BILL CURRENTLY
BEING DEBATED IN THE SENATE, WHICH SHE OPPOSES.
>> THERE ARE A LOT OF VULNERABLE FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO BE HIT BY
THIS BILL.
ONE OF THEM IS STUDENTS, THAT'S NOT PROTECTING STUDENTS WHO HAVE
STUDENT LOANS.
AND SO I HAVE GOT AMENDMENTS ON THAT, AND I AM GOING TO BE
PUSHING FOR IT, BUT LET ME MENTION A COUPLE OF OTHERS.
WE HAVE HAD A REAL PROBLEM WITH BANKS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST
AFRICAN-AMERICANS, AGAINST LATINAS, AGAINST WOMEN.
>> IN TERMS OF GETTING ACCESS TO LOANS, RATES?
>> YES, YES.
ACCESS TO LOANS.
CHARGING ONE RATE FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
A DIFFERENT RATE FOR WHITE PEOPLE.
AND THIS IS TERRIBLE.
AND THE LATEST RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THIS IS, THIS HAPPENED AT
LEAST 61 CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
NOW THE ONLY WAY THAT WE KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE OF DATA THAT THE
BANKS ARE FORCED BY LAW TO REPORT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IN THIS BILL SAYS ABOUT 85% OF
BANKS WON'T HAVE TO REPORT AT ALL.
THERE WILL BE WHOLE COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE WILL BE NO REPORTING
DONE.
AND THAT MEANS NO OVERSIGHT OF BANKS THAT IN THE PAST HAVE
DISCRIMINATED AND BANKS THAT MAY BE DISCRIMINATING NOW.
A THIRD ONE IS THAT WHEN THE CRASH CAME IN 2008, AND WE PUT
THE NEW REGULATIONS IN PLACE AFTERWARDS, WE SAID HEY, NO MORE
CHEAT, PEOPLE ON HOME MORTGAGES, YOU KNOW, THE TEASER RATES, THE
TRICKS.
THE TRAPS.
AND WE SAID THAT'S TRUE, WHETHER YOU HAVE A BRICKS AND MORTAR
HOUSE, WHETHER YOU HAVE A CONDO, OR WHETHER YOU LIVE IN A TRAILER
PARK.
YOU HAVE A MANUFACTURED HOUSING.
WHAT THIS BILL SAYS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL KEEP THE RULE THE
SAME FOR BRICKS AND MORTAR HOUSES AND WE'LL KEEP IT THE
SAME FOR CONDOS, BUT WE'RE JUST GOING TO STAY ON MANUFACTURED
HOUSING.
IT'S OKAY IF YOU CHEAT THOSE PEOPLE.
THAT'S JUST WRONG.
>> IN AN EDITORIAL THE BERKSHIRE EAGLE CALLED ON YOU TO PUT YOUR
NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE TO REST.
I WANT TO QUOTE SOMETHING THAT THEY SAID.
QUOTE, "SO WE CALL UPON OUR SENIOR SENATOR TO SCREW UP HER
COURAGE AND TAKE THE SPIT TEST, IF SHE ALREADY HAS BUT IS
KEEPING THE RESULTS UNDER-WRAPS.
WE URGE HER TO BE FORTHCOMING, WILL YOU TAKE A DANNY BAUTISTA
TEST?
>> I THINK THAT THIS WAS LITIGATED IN 2012 HERE IN
MASSACHUSETTS.
I THINK SCOTT BROWN RAISED THIS ISSUE EVERY DAY.
>> IT KEEPS COMING UP FOR YOU.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT I SEE IT AT THE END OF THE DAY
WHAT THE PEOPLE OF MASSACHUSETTS SAID IS THEY CARED MORE ABOUT
THEIR FAMILIES THAN THEY DID ABOUT MY BACKGROUND.
MY BROTHERS AND I, WE GREW UP IN OKLAHOMA.
WE KNOW OUR STORY FROM OUR MOM AND OUR DAD AND OUR GRANDMOTHERS
AND OUR GRANDFATHER, AND FROM OUR ANTS.
>> AND THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR YOU?
THE STORY?
>> IT'S BEEN JUST FINE FOR MY BROTHERS AND ME.
>> SO THE ANSWER IS A NO?
>> LOOK, IT'S THAT I AM DOWN IN WASHINGTON EVERY DAY.
FIGHTING FOR THE FAMILIES OF MASSACHUSETTS.
THAT IS MY JOB.
THIS BANKING BILL THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE
ARE GETTING CHEATED AND THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT THESE GIANT
BANKS HAVE COME IN, WITH THE GREAT HORDES OF LOBBYISTS AND
ALL OF THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS AND ALL OF THEIR BOUGHT AND PAID FOR
EXPERTS TO TRY TO RAM THROUGH CONGRESS A BILL THAT HELPS WALL
STREET, HELPS THE CHEATERS, AND TAKES IT OUT ON AMERICAN
FAMILIES.
I AM IN THAT FIGHT 24 HOURS A DAY.
I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE I NEED TO STAY FOCUSED.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT ANOTHER BILL, THE MARSHALL PLAN, SENATOR
SANDER'S BILL, I'VE BEEN IN FAVOR OF IT.
WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD THAT BILL WILL BE PASS AND HAD BRING
RELIEF TO THE ISLAND OF PUERTO RICO?
HERE WE ARE, HURRICANE MARIA HAS 30% OF THE ISLAND IS STILL
WITHOUT ELECTRICITY.
>> AND THIS IS JUST ABSOLUTELY INFURIATING.
SO THE REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW WILL NOT EVEN LET US HAVE A VOTE
ON THE BILL.
WE PUT TWO OTHER PIECES ON THE TABLE.
I ALSO BELIEVE IN ADDITION TO THE, WHAT I THINK ARE THE
MARSHALL PLANS FOR PUERTO RICO, WE ALSO NEED TO DEAL WITH THE
DEBT OVERHANG IN PUERTO RICO.
LONG BEFORE -- >> AND THAT'S FOLDED INTO THIS?
>> NO, IT'S SEPARATE.
IT'S SEPARATE.
THIS IS THE BILL THAT I AM DOING THAT'S SEPARATE, THAT -- IT'S IN
ADDITION, SO IT'S BOTH HANDS THAT WE NEED.
AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ONE WAS THEY WERE EVEN BEFORE THE
HURRICANES HIT, SO WE HAVE GOT TO GET PUERTO RICO'S ECONOMY
BACK IN A GOOD FOOTING, AS WELL AS ITS BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE UP
AND OPERATIONAL, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE MAKING THE RIGHT
INVESTMENTS AND DEALING WITH THE DEBT OVERHANG.
WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO SINCE THE REPUBLICANS WON'T GIVE
US VOTES ON THESE IS TO STAY AFTER OUR AGENCIES.
SO JUST THIS PAST WEEK I SENT ANOTHER ROUND OF LETTERS TRYING
TO PUSH OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ON MAKING SURE THAT THE
INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ELECTORATE POWER INFRASTRUCTURE IS BETTER
SUPPORTED, AND THAT THEY ARE GETTING IT OUT TO EVERYONE WHO
NEEDS IT.
YOU KNOW PART OF WHAT WORRIES ME IS EVEN IN PLACES WHERE THEY
HAVE REESTABLISHED POWER, THE POWER IS NOT RELIABLE.
SO IT'S COMING ON, IT'S GOING OFF.
SO WE HAVE JUST GOT TO KEEP WORKING ON THIS.
WHAT WORRIES ME THE MOST IS THAT PUERTO RICO IS FALLING OUT OF
THE HEADLINES.
OUT OF SIGHT IS OUT OF MIND.
SO I KEEP TRYING TO LIFT THIS UP.
I GAVE A SPEECH JUST THIS WEEK ON PUERTO RICO.
>> LOTS.
PEOPLE DID, AND THERE ARE LOTS OF EVACUEES COMING TO
MASSACHUSETTS, SO IT IS ON THE TABLE HERE.
A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT FEMA.
THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT HOMES IN PUERTO RICO.
AND CONSIDERED MANY OF THEM HABITABLE BUT THERE IS A BIG
QUESTION AMONG THE EVACUEE POPULATIONS HERE ABOUT HOW
HABITABLE IS BEING DEFINED.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF THAT?
>> YES, AND I'VE BEEN PUSHING BACK ON FEMA BECAUSE THEY ARE
SAYING, YOU CAN RETURN TO YOUR HOUSE, THAT DOES NOT HAVE A ROOF
AND HAS BEEN RAINED ON.
>> RIGHT, THAT DOESN'T HAVE A ROOF OR A SECURE DOOR OR WINDOWS
THAT DON'T LEAK.
MAY NOT CENTER -- MAY NOT HAVE A RELIABLE POWER SOURCE OR CLEAN
WATER TO IT.
I HAVE BURNED -- PUSHED, ALONG WITH OTHERS, IN THE SENATE
TRYING TO GET FEMA TO BACK OFF, AND SO FAR FEMA HAS NOT YET COME
OUT WITH A DEFINITIVE STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO
ON THIS, AND BOY WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THERE PUSHING ON THEM.
>> LOTS OF QUESTIONS STILL AROUND THAT ISSUE.
GOVERNOR PATRICK, FORMER GOVERNOR PATRICK OF
MASSACHUSETTS HINTDZ THAT HE'S LOOKING AT A 2020 RUN.
WHO WOULD MAKE A BETTER PRESIDENT YOU OR FORMER GOVERNOR
PAT ARE I CAN?
>> LOOK, I THINK DUVAL PATRICK IS JUST TERRIFIC.
HE'S A MAN WHO HAS A GOOD HEART AND WHO IS OUT THERE DOING THE
BEST THAT HE COULD AS GOVERNOR FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE
COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS.
I HAVE ENORMOUS RESPECT FOR OUR FORMER GOVERNOR.
RIGHT NOW THE RACE IS 2018.
WE HAVE FOR THE OUR RACES COMING UP.
I AM TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED IN MASSACHUSETTS, AND I'VE BEEN
CRISSCROSSING THE STATE, MEETING WITH PEOPLE EVERYWHERE, AND I
THINK THAT THAT'S EXACTLY HOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS.
2018 IS FRANKLY OUR CHANCE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE TO GET BACK
THE HOUSE OR THE SENATE OR BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND PUT
SOME CONSTRAINTS ON DONALD TRUMP'S ABILITY TO JUST WRECK
THIS COUNTRY.
>> TO YOUR POINT THAT YOU ARE STAYING FOCUSED ON 2018, YOUR
CONTENDERS HAVE SAID THAT YOU KNOW, THERE IS CONCERN BECAUSE
YOU GAVE MONEY TO THE DNC THIS WEEK AND TO MANY STATE, ALL OF
THE STATE PARTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND SOME POLITICAL
INSIDERS LOOK AT THAT AS YOU SEEING THE FIELD FOR THE
POSSIBLE 2020 RUN.
THESE CONTENDERS THEN CAN TURN AROUND AND SAY SHE'S FOCUSED ON
2020, NOT ON 2018.
IS THE MONEY AN INDICATION THAT YOU DON'T SEE THESE 2018
CHALLENGERS AS SERIOUS CONTENDERS?
>> NO.
IT'S BUT THE 2018 ELECTION, WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO HAVE
A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE BACK THE HOUSE, TO TAKE BACK THE
SENATE, TO TAKE GOVERNORSHIP, TO TAKE STATE LEGISLATURES IS IF
THEY CAN HELP BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I REALIZE
THAT THERE ARE MANY, MANY DEMOCRATIC STATE PARTIES THAT
ARE STRETCHED FOR FUN.
I SAID THAT I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND I'VE BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO
COLLECT FUNDS.
I AM GOING TO HELP TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS TO HELP GET PEOPLE
REGISTERED TO VOTE AND TO HELP BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT
THERE IS A WAY TO USE THE VOLUNTEERS.
THERE IS A WAY TO HARNESS THE ENERGY OF THOSE WHO REALLY WANT
TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD DURING THIS ELECTION.
>> FINAL QUESTION WHAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE YOU THINK THAT
MASSACHUSETTS IS FACING RIGHT NOW?
>> I THINK THAT THE HARDEST CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE FACING IN
MASSACHUSETTS IS BUILDING AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
YOU KNOW THIS ECONOMY IN MASSACHUSETTS HAS DONE WELL
BECAUSE WE HAVE INVESTED IN EDUCATION.
WE HAVE INVESTED IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE HAVE INVESTED IN BASIC RESEARCH.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WORK ON DOWN IN WASHINGTON.
STILL IT'S AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS BETTER AND BETTER FOR THOSE AT
THE TOP.
LESS AND LESS FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
I FEEL SO BLESSED IN MY LIFE THAT, YOU KNOW, I AM THE
DAUGHTER OF A PLAN WHO ENDED UP AS A JANITOR.
MY MOM WORKED A MINIMUM WAGE JOB AT SEARS.
I GOT MY SHOT TO BE A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER BECAUSE OF A
COMMUTER COLLEGE THAT COST $50 A SEMESTER.
>> THE AVERAGE COST OF A STATE EDUCATION NOW IS $24,000 A YEAR.
>> THAT OPPORTUNITY IS JUST NOT THERE TODAY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND SO WHAT I WANT TO SEE MASSACHUSETTS DO IS EXACTLY WHAT
I WANT TO SEE AMERICA DO. AND THAT IS INVEST IN
OPPORTUNITIES, SO ALL OF OUR KIDS, ANY KIDS WHO ARE WILLING
TO WORK HARD, ANY KID WHO IS WILLING TO GET OUT THERE AND DO
IT, WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET AN EDUCATION WITHOUT
GETTING CRUSHED BY STUDENT LOAN DEBT.
I WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN.
I WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN.
THE YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY GET THE SAME KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT
WERE GRANTED TO MY GENERATION.
IN FACT, I WANT TO SEE THEM GET BETTER OPPORTUNITIES.
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