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Probate, what is it?

How do I know if I need it?

How and when can I sell the house?

In this video, I'll break down and de-mystify this process for you.

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with the duties and the timeline required for California probate.

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Hi, I'm Mary Anglin with United Real Estate Los Angeles.

As a Seniors Real Estate Specialist, my passion is helping people through their real estate

process whatever their situation may be, and in this video, I'm going to share six crucial

steps for the probate process.

My first word of advice when handling the estate of someone who has passed is to contact

your or the decedent's lawyer.

This video is not intended for legal advice, but instead offers general information to

guide heirs in the sale of inherited real estate.

If you don't have a lawyer, I recommend finding one who is a Certified Specialist in Estate

Planning, Trust, and Probate Law.

You CAN begin the probate process with the courts on your own.

However, it can be quite complicated, so I highly recommend hiring a lawyer.

The potential mistakes avoided and the stress relief a good lawyer can provide are well

worth the cost.

Next, what is probate?

Probate refers to the general administering of a deceased person's will or the estate

of a deceased person who has passed without a will.

The court appoints either an Executor or an Administrator as the Personal Representative

to administer the process of collecting the assets of the deceased person, paying any

liabilities remaining on that person's estate, and finally, distributing the assets of the

estate to the beneficiaries.

Share in the comments any experiences you've had or questions you have involving a probate

situation.

Next, how do you know if you need the probate process?

The short answer is "how is the property titled?".

Have your realtor or title company pull the grant deed.

If ownership is in the individual's name, it will need to go through probate.

If title is held as a Living Trust, Joint Tenancy, or Community Property with the Right

of Survivorship, you can move forward with the sale without probate procedures.

Fourth, how do you begin the probate process?

The first step is to file a form called the "Petition for Probate".

In California, this is a four-page document which will define many aspects of your process.

Your attorney will walk you through the completion of this form.

Fifth, the personal representative is given either Full or Limited Authority

to sell the real estate portion of the estate.

With Full Authority, you, of course, must act in the best interest of the estate and

your actions can be subject to questioning later on by the court or a beneficiary but

you will have the authority to take care of business without delay.

If granted Limited Authority, the process of selling property must go through a series

of court-regulated steps that must be adhered to by the letter and can prolong the process.

Sixth, what's involved in selling a house in probate?

Once the court has issued Letters of Administration or Letters Testamentary - usually about four

to six weeks after the filing of the petition - the Personal Representative is okayed to begin

to transact business.

This means the home can be listed for sale at this time.

I do recommend getting the house ready for sale while you're waiting on the receipt of

the letters.

You'll likely need to clean and empty the home, and perhaps have an estate or a garage

sale, maybe even do a few minor repairs or maintenance.

Your Realtor should have recommendations on who to contact for these things as well as

other things that are needed.

There are differences to be noted in the sale process between a regular home

sale and a probate sale including the required documents for both listing and buying are

different.

The length of the listing period is limited by law, and the sales price can be a bit tricky

when limited authority is involved.

You can see that it's important to hire an agent who is not only an expert at marketing

and selling homes, but who also has education or experience in the probate or inherited

property process.

You'll find more videos on various aspects of a home sale on this channel.

So, now that you know the six crucial points about selling a property in probate

click on the link in the description box to access my free probate process timeline document.

If you're in the San Gabriel Valley or the Inland Empire and are in need of a Realtor

I'm right here in West Covina.

Just give me a buzz.

I look forward to connecting with you.

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Because I'll put something on the channel that I feel was speaking my

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did it or whatever and it we saw desirable results we saw a five percent

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look I think we're talking we're spending a lot of time talking about

diversity in ethnicities and things like that but let's look at diversity and

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have all your this isn't a behavioural principle this is a business suggestion

so with us us growing over 14 years I was in situations and you guys know what

I mean where people try to compromise your ethics because they're like yo we

like this superintendent I've told this story before told me that I better go in

the IEP meeting and say that he said what he wants me to say so this kid so

they don't spend money on this kid and I said I don't know I'm sure I'm not

feeling too good about and I went into meeting I said the direct opposite and

he fired me fired or organization but this is 13 years ago the problem is we

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I found Marlene I got loved so diversity is important you need listen with

diversity if you could have more diversity in your funding streams as an

organizational leader the more that someone tries to make you compromise

your ethics the more you have a few resources to do what's right for the kid

I didn't curse I told I think I wouldn't it's implied

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5 Questions - California Landlord Tenant - The Law Offices of Andy I. Chen - Duration: 15:22.

Hey everybody it's Andy and welcome again to my office in Los Altos, California. I'm

an attorney licensed to practice law in California as well as New York and in

this video I'm going to go over the five questions that I think you should be

prepared to answer if you are getting involved into a California residential

landlord-tenant case. So, uh, specifically I'm going to talk about evictions.

Landlord-tenant law as a practice area in California includes more than just

that, but in my experience at least in the San Francisco Bay Area, the

overwhelming number of, I guess, requests or inquiries, the overwhelming

number of prospective clients in the landlord-tenant sort of space are looking

for evictions either from the landlord- side, like you know landlords looking to

evict tenants or from the tenant-side, tenants needing defense, let's say. So

because of that, right now in this video I'm going to talk about evictions only.

Later on if the demand sort of warrants it, I might record another video - another

five questions video - on other non- eviction types of cases in California. So,

anyway, hopefully that kind of, you know, established the ground rules about what

this video is about so let's go ahead and get started. So the first question

that I think you should be prepared to answer is, well, to be honest with you I

think this might surprise some of you, but the first question basically is 'What

do you want out of this situation?' So if you are a landlord, you know, you should

be prepared to kind of explain to yourself and to any lawyer that you

are interviewing, for instance, what exactly do you want? Do you want the rent?

Do you want, you know, the rent that this tenant has not paid you? Do you want the

tenant out? Do you want the property back, you know, do you want all of that, do you

just want one or two of those, etc. In my experience - this might be kind of specific

to the San Francisco Bay Area - but a lot of the landlords that I've represented

up here, a lot of landlords that I've dealt with up here, a lot of times they

are willing to waive small fees. So for instance, if you didn't pay rent for a

month, they don't really, I mean they want you

to pay it, but the thing is you when push comes to shove, it is actually

something that they are willing to let go in a surprising number of instances.

To them because, I think you know, the rents in the San Francisco Bay Area are

so high, it's actually much more worth it financially for them to basically

waive small things and basically get the property back sooner, put a new tenant in

it, and then, you know, reap the $3,000, $4,000, $5,000, whatever it is per month.

It just makes business sense to get the property back as quickly as possible,

waive everything else in some, in some instances. So, conversely, if you are the

tenant, you might have to kind of, you know, explore, I guess, or kind of think to

yourself what exactly it is that you want out of the situation. Some tenants I

will tell you that, like the ones that I've dealt with, some, sometimes they do

want to stay. And unfortunately, I think a lot of those instances are ones that are

not really sort of grounded in reality, like the tenant, for instance, views it

as their home, but it's really not because it's just, it's just a rental, etc,

etc. So ignore those kind of minority sort, sorts of cases. The, I guess, I

wouldn't say it's the majority, but there's a lot basically, there's a lot of

tenants out there who are facing evictions where they agree to move so

moving out really is not the kind of the holdup. The holdup basically is that, you

know, they can't move out in the time that the law normally prescribes. So if

you've never been involved in landlord- tenant case, it moves really quickly.

Stuff that might take years on a kind of non-landlord-tenant case, in a landlord-

tenant, sorry in a landlord-tenant eviction case rather, stuff that might take years

otherwise only takes a few weeks or a month or two or something like that. So

stuff moves really quickly. If you are a tenant and you lose a landlord-tenant

eviction case, it might be something where you have to move out in five days

and realistically, you know, a lot of times people can't do that in five days,

like they just have too much stuff, they have to pack it all up, they have kids,

they have work, they have, you know, to go find a new place, they have a U-haul

truck that they have to wait for blah, blah, blah. So a lot of times, you know, the

dispute basically is not that the tenant won't move, the tenant just won't move in

the amount of time that the law kind of prescribes. In those situations, if the

tenant basically just needs more time, the landlord just wants to get the

property back, is it possible that some sort of

middle ground, some sort of compromise that kind of benefits both parties

could be reached? Sure. I guess because I've done it a couple times already like

it's not surprising to me, but I could imagine, I guess, that it would be

surprising to a lot of landlords or tenants who are going through this the

first time that compromise can be, can be had I guess. So,

anyway, that's kind of a really long explanation of the first question. So

what exactly do you want out of the situation? Do you just want the property

back? Do you want more time, etc, etc? So that's the first question. The second

question that you should be prepared to answer basically is what city or county

is the rental property in? Obviously that's going to be a really simple

question to answer hopefully, but the reason why that question is important is

because if you are in a city, er, if the rental property is in a city or county

that has additional rules on top of what state law requires, number one that's

something that you have to tell your lawyer because your lawyer might

restrict on geography that way. I'll explain what that means in a second, but

if you have additional rules, regulations, etc, based on the city and the county

that you're in, you need to comply with those, of course, and, you know, you have to

figure out what those are if you don't know them, etc. So on top of that, if you

happen to be in a city or county that has a lot of rules that, you know, like

most lawyers in your area don't know about, for example, because it just

doesn't, it's not something that's really worth it for them to kind of know, that's

important also and I'll give you an example. In the San Francisco Bay Area, the city

of San Francisco, city and county of San Francisco has its own rules and

regulations about what, you know, what landlords and tenants have to do

basically. So those rules and regulations are specific to the city and the county.

Rent control, I guess you know, if you've heard of that before, but specific rules

that, er, rules that are specific to San Francisco - the city and the county - unless

you're a lawyer who takes eviction cases in San Francisco all the time, you're

probably not going to know those rules. So, for instance for me, I know the state

law rules, but I don't know the city and county rules, the City and County of

San Francisco's rules, because I don't take cases up there with enough

regularity. So if you were to approach me with

a request to do an eviction or to defend an eviction in the City and County of

San Francisco, I might have to (a) turn you down or, (b) I would

have to refer you to a specialist who does those types of cases in San

Francisco all the time. Because they do it all the time, they know the rules way

better than me, the occasional sort of lawyer, I guess, who would do those

cases. So hopefully that made sense. That's

question number two. So question number three is basically 'Are you on lease or

off?' and what I mean by that is are you still bound by the terms of a written

lease - six months, a year, etc - or has your lease basically expired and now you're

on a month-to-month situation. So I guess if you ignore the landlord-tenant sort

of scenario for a second, you can hopefully sort of imagine that if you're

on contract of any kind, if you have a contract of any kind, and you're still

bound by it, that basically imposes restrictions on your freedom, like you

know, you basically are not able to do the things that you would otherwise do

normally. So if you are on lease, for example, and you're a tenant you, one benefit

could be that you have a, I guess, your rent basically is locked. So let's say

you sign a 12-month lease and your rent is specified as $1,000 per month for the

entire 12 months. So if the landlord tries to raise your rent you could say

'Well excuse me Mr. Landlord, I have a contract with you that says that my rent

is frozen at $1,000 a month. At the end of, at the end of this lease, you

know, this written lease, you can, you know, try to raise the rent and at that

time I might move, I might not, etc.' So that's, like if you're on lease, you

know, you're going to have some restrictions on your freedom. If you are off lease, you

know, you might have some restrictions on your freedom, but they're

generally going to be a lot less. So if I go back to that rent scenario, if the, if

you're a tenant and your lease has expired, your written lease has expired, if the

landlord basically tells you 'Hey Andy, you know, I'm going to raise your rent from

$1,000 to $1,200, you know, per month starting next month.

In that scenario I might go 'Okay well, you know, I'm sorry but I, I really don't want

to pay that. Tell you what I'll give you my notice now and I'll move and then, you

know, next month, hopefully, you can advertise this and get another tenant

in here who will pay that, you know, for instance. So, anyway, hopefully all that

made sense, I guess, but if you're on lease or off lease, that kind of

determines how much freedom you have to do things and that, you know, freedom to

do things that's always going to be important in any type of scenario. So

that is number, I think, three is what we're talking about. So number four: what

notices have been given in your situation and when were they given? So I

have another video on my channel about 60 vs. 30-day notices when you're trying

to terminate a tenancy, a landlord-tenant sort of relationship and, I guess, in that

video I cite to a whole bunch of codes and, you know, about what note, the notices

have to contain, what type of notices have to be given, etc. If you've never

done a landlord-tenant case in California, those notices are basically

strict compliance. If you do the notice improperly, if you serve it improperly, if

you give them a 30 when you, they actually should have had a 60, etc,

all of that's going to be really, good gonna be real available. [Eyeroll] Going to be

really, really important is what I meant to say. I've been in front of some judges

who are basically really, extremely strict on it. If you don't do the notice

correctly, the judge will dismiss your case if you're on the landlord-side, for

instance. If you have your case dismissed, you basically lose the filing

fee, you know, you have to pay your lawyer to do the case again, you have to pay

another filing fee, etc. So it just is, I guess, if the notices are not done

correctly, a lot of problems can happen and depending on which side of the case

you're on those problems might work for you or against you, but in general,

lawyers, I think, will want to know what notices have been given, when were they

given and so forth. Yeah. So anyway, the last kind of question, number five,

basically is - I wouldn't say it's a catch-all, I guess, but in landlord-tenant

eviction cases what's very, very common is for accusations to be kind of, you

know, slung back and forth, I guess. The landlord says the tenant broke this,

didn't pay rent, caused a noise disturbance, whatever. The tenant said 'Oh

well, you know, the, the heater didn't work the air conditioner didn't work, the landlord didn't

fix any of this stuff, etc. So accusations being flung back and forth really, really,

really common. So because they are very, very common, I guess,

you know, question number five basically is going to be 'What evidence do you have?'

So, if you're the landlord, let's say, and you're basically saying 'Okay you know,

I'm gonna break this guy's lease. I'm going to you know, you know, evict him, etc,

because he was - I don't know - manufacturing methamphetamine in the

house, let's say. If that's, if that's the basis that you're, you're using, great.

But I, as a lawyer, for example, I'm going to want to know, okay, what evidence do you have

that he was doing this? Do you have neighbors, you know, who are saying that?

Do you have the police who are saying that, etc, etc. If you're the tenant and you're

saying that the landlord didn't fix the air conditioner, that the landlord, you

know, didn't spray for termites, etc, etc, like what evidence do

you have that the landlord did not do these things? So I guess hopefully this

should not be surprising to anybody, but evidence generally is going to be what's

necessary when you go to court. So the judge is not going to just believe you

that 'Oh well, yes, you know I'm going to believe you that the landlord didn't fix

this' or 'I'm gonna believe you that the tenant was manufacturing methamphetamine.'

Yeah just evidence, in general, is going to be really, really important when it

comes to court and it's something that, you know, I think, at least, you should be

prepared to sort of provide to your attorney at the very beginning. I think

in in my first five questions video about divorces, I think I mentioned in

there that, you know, one benefit of, you know, thinking through these five

questions, one question, er, one benefit of being prepared, is that you basically

come across as the more, as the client that's more with it, and if you're more

with it generally the, like you're gonna have a

better time, you know, finding a lawyer to help you out of whatever situation

you're in. So hopefully all of that helped. To kind of summarize real quickly:

Question number one what do you want out of this particular situation? A lot of

times actually, what the client, sorry, what the landlord wants versus

what the tenant wants actually are not mutually exclusive. It is possible to

benefits both parties, give them what they want.

It just takes some artful negotiation. Number two what

city and county are we talking about and that's because, again you know, there

might be individual rules, ordinances that are specific to that County, to that

County or to that city. Number three is are you on lease or off?

You know, do you have a written lease that's still in effect or has the lease

passed and you are on a month-to-month situation? And that's important because

that will determine how much freedom you have to do things, regardless of whether

or not you're the landlord or the tenant. Number four is what notices have been

given in the situation and when and the reason why that's important is because

there are a lot of strict compliance, I guess, sort of, sort, sort of rules where

if you actually get to court and you haven't done, you know, the background properly,

you haven't done your homework properly, you could have your case dismissed, for

it, for instance and then number five is basically kind of a cop out sort of

question, uh, what evidence do you have that actually backs up all the stuff

that you're claiming? Yeah, so anyway, hopefully all that helps. Again these are

just my five questions that I thought of when I was shooting this video and it's

something where if you have your own five questions, for example, leave them

down below. If I included questions that, you know, you didn't think are, you know,

terribly important, that you would have included other ones, leave me that

stuff down below in a comment also, but again, hopefully this helps you, you know,

be, sorry, helps you, helps you be more prepared, is what I meant to say, helps

you be more prepared as a prospective client, helps you find a lawyer faster

and ultimately helps you out of whatever situation you're in. So anyway, again

hopefully all that helps. Go ahead and comment, share, like, subscribe all that

stuff, uh, and I will talk to you guys next time.

Thanks.

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Pilot who died in California crash was friends with Dennis Hof - Daily News - Duration: 7:51.

The pilot who died in a small plane that crashed into a California home and killed a family-of-four was good friends with the late brothel owner Dennis Hof and would often fly him and his Bunny Ranch girls

 Pimp-turned-politician Hof would frequently get flown in the same Cessna 414A that Antonio Pastini, 75, was flying before it fell apart midair over Yorba Linda Sunday

  Video shows Pastini, a sushi restaurant owner and Chicago cop, attending Hof's 72nd and last birthday party in October, where the brothel owner gave Pastini a shout out while making a speech

 'You guys like the sushi? Kim Lee Sushi Tony, my pilot. The greatest guy, love this guy

A Chicago cop,' Hof said at the party days before he was found dead at his Love Ranch brothel in Crystal, Nevada on October 16

  The men became close friends when Hof would regularly hang out at a sushi restaurant Pastini owned in Carson City, Nevada- where Hof's famed Bunny Ranch is located

 Sources tell TMZ, Pastini often flew Hof and his girlfriend in the plane.Hof died at his Love Ranch brothel in Crystal, Nevada in October after he had attended a rally for his campaign to win a seat in the Nevada state assembly in GOP-popular District 36

He was 72.   Pastini was identified as a retired Chicago police officer after the crash in a suburb 36 miles southeast of Los Angeles, at around 1

45pm on Sunday.But the Chicago Police Department said it had no record of the 75-year-old, who's actually from Gardnerville, Nevada, ever working for them

False retirement papers and a police badge with the same issue number as a badge reported lost in 1978 were found at the crash site, Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi revealed

 Pastini's twin-engine plane fell apart in midair and plummeted in a fiery heap into a home, setting fire to the house and killing a family of four who were watching the Super Bowl

 It's thought that two men and two women were the victims. DNA will need to be used to identify them because their injuries are so severe

Neighbors claimed the victims were a husband and wife and their daughter and son-in-law

Lt. Cory Martino of the Orange County Sheriff's Department said: 'Unfortunately, the condition of the additional four deceased will require the use of additional measures such as DNA to obtain official identification

'Based on initial information received by the individuals who survived the incident, we believe the individuals were members of a family attending a gathering

' It is not known how many people were in the home at the time but witnesses described seeing some survivors run out of the home screaming for loved ones who did not make it out

 Two others were treated in the hospital for burns and a fire fighter was also injured

 After crashing through the house, the plane smashed through a fence and eventually came to a stop in the backyard of another home on the street behind the burnt property

   Parts of the plane, including one of its twin engines, landed in neighbors' yards

 The plane took off from Fullerton Municipal Airport about a dozen miles west of the blaze

  The main body of the twin-engine plane was found in the backyard of another home not far from the burned house

The fire spread to a SUV that was parked in the driveway.Debris was scattered over four blocks, Simpson said

Rain from a winter storm helped firefighters extinguish the house fire. They planned to search the burned house in case there were additional victims, Sanchez said

The National Transportation and Safety Board will investigate the cause of the crash

The development comes as DailyMail.com discovered a series of cryptic Facebook posts shared on Pastini's profile in the weeks leading up to the tragic crash

Four days before the crash on January 31, in what would be Pastini's final post, he eerily told his 'friends' that this would be the last time he ever opened Facebook againHe wrote: 'No need for any response

FB takes your time away. Posts and comments are usually BS! I am signing off and deleting my account as of this post

My friends can messenger me, text me, or call me. If that is too difficult, you were never my friend to start with

This is the last post and last time I will open FB.'Two days earlier, just after midnight on January 29, Pastini shared two equally-cryptic posts within five minutes of each other

  Share this article Share The first read: 'Throughout life I have heard to look for the light at the end of the tunnel

I was wondering why we let ourselves get into the tunnel in the first place.'In the second post, he asked the question: 'How far is far, far away?'On January 25, Pastini - who is thought to have worked in the restaurant industry - revealed he'd taken his first day off in a year and said he was surprised at the amount of people who care about him

He wrote: 'I was surprised to see all the nice comments about me having a day off

I guess there are more people who care then I thought. Seriously, thanks guys for cheering me up, I love you all

'One day prior, Pastini announced that he was having the day off. He implied that nobody cared about him in his post

'To all the people I know who may give a sh**. (All none of them) I finally have a real day off,' he wrote

 

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P0lice Pilot in Fatal California Crash Had Fake Records

LOS ANGELES裕he man piloting a small plane that broke apart over a Southern California neighborhood had false credentials identifying him as a retired Chicago police officer, authorities said Feb. 5.

Antonio Pastini was killed when the twin engine plane broke up shortly after takeoff and fell in pieces in Yorba Linda, igniting a fire in a home where four people died on Sunday. The cause of the crash has not been determined.

Pastini, 75, was initially identified as a retired officer but Chicago police said there were no records of him working for the department.

The credentials found at the crash site included false retirement papers and a police badge bearing the same number as a badge reported lost in 1978, Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said in an email to The Associated Press.

Orange County sheriffs spokeswoman Carrie Braun said the credentials were not legitimate but the pilot was indeed Pastini. The victims inside the home have yet to be publicly identified.

Pastinis daughter, Julia Ackley, said her fathers birth name was Jordan Isaacson, but she didnt say why he changed it. She did not address the police credentials.

Id prefer not to comment, and let the investigators do their job, Ackley told KABC TV. My father is exactly who he said he was.

She said he was a restaurant owner and an experienced pilot who flew regularly from his home in Nevada to visit family in California.

Aviation safety experts cautioned against drawing early conclusions about the cause of the crash.

At this stage you dont make assumptions. You let the evidence lead you where it leads you, said John Cox, a former commercial pilot and a veteran crash investigator who is head of the consulting firm Safety Operating Systems.

National Transportation Safety Board investigators have been collecting parts of the aircraft, the planes records, and information about Pastini, who was described as a commercial pilot with an instrument flight rating.

Preliminary information showed the plane took off around 1:35 p.m. Sunday from Fullerton Municipal Airport, made a left turn and climbed to an altitude of 7,800 feet before starting to descend over Yorba Linda.

Weather was intermittently rainy across Southern California during the weekend, but specific conditions encountered by the flight were not immediately known.

Observers said the plane initially appeared intact when it fell through a cloud ceiling at an altitude of about 2,000 to 3,000 feet, investigator Maja Smith said.

Witnesses say that they saw the airplane coming out of a cloud at a very high speed before parts of the airplane such as tail and subsequently wings starting to break off, Smith said.

The Cessna 414A has a good reputation, said Cox, who said he has flown similar Cessnas since the 1970s. In flight breakups are uncommon, and causes can range from metal fatigue to instrument failure and forces induced by the pilot, he said.

He said the breakup may have begun earlier than was apparent to the witnesses.

Small pieces may have come off that are leading up to the cataclysmic breakup that people see. You need to make sure that the airplane was fully intact when they first see it, he said. As an investigator, you have to be careful about that.

Losing control of an airplane can also lead to a breakup, Cox said.

One of the first things that might fail in that situation, he said, is a horizontal stabilizer葉he structures that look like small wings on the tail.

Once one of them comes off the loads then on the airplane will exceed what it can then withstand and other pieces will fail due to structural overload, Cox said.

Photos of the wreck showing the outer portions of the wings apparently snapped off are consistent with the type of forces wings are subjected to with the loss of one or more horizontal stabilizers and when the airplane loses aerodynamic balance, he said.

Video showing puffs of smoke erupting in the sky as the plane fell were consistent with an in flight breakup rather than an in flight fire aboard the plane, Cox said

Witnesses described the plane as sounding like a missile or a racing motorcycle. Cox said that could be the result of the engines no longer being under control.

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