a federal judge just unloads on Bob Muller's legal team suggesting that
they're lying and only out to get Trump ha does that sound familiar district
judge TS Ellis is hearing the case against former Trump campaign manager
Paul Manafort in the Eastern District of Virginia and in court today he blasted
the special counsels legal team questioning their motives and even their
honesty Ellis told prosecutors you don't really care about Mr Man afford you
really care about what information mr. Man afford can give you to lead you to
mr. Trump and an impeachment or whatever the judge demanded to see the so-called
scope memo outlining the range of Muller's Russia probe and when
prosecutors objected it his unrelated material Ellis retorted I'll be the
judge of that and then he added we don't want anyone
in this country with unfettered power it's unlikely you're going to persuade
me the special prosecutor has the power to do anything he or she wants the
American people feel pretty strongly that no one has unfettered power well a
delighted president Trump broke news of the hearing to the NRA annual meeting in
Dallas this afternoon a highly respected judge in Virginia made statements it
says Wall Street Journal it says Judge questions Muller's authority to
prosecute manifold judge Thiele who is really something very special I hear
from many standpoints he's a with her sister suggested the charges before the
US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia which is part of
the Muller teams the pressure mr. metaphor into giving up
information on President Donald Trump or others in the campaign I've been saying
that for a long time to winch on it well let's review these developments with
House Intel Committee Chairman Devin Nunez we have a lot to talk about
with him chairman Nunez it's good to see you ts Ellis I know very well he's a
senior judge in the Eastern District of Virginia
a long time ago I interviewed with him I think I even argued a case before him at
one point very well-respected appointed by President Reagan back in 1987 but he
was brutal on the the counsel who was arguing the case Michael Dreeben who is
the basically a Deputy Solicitor General who's now in the Moller office what were
your thoughts on his comments about how this is really outside the scope of the
mulher Authority I was astonished by the comments the judge made today although
it's not surprising everything in this case laura has just gone off the rails
there's not a day that goes by that something new crazy doesn't break you
know finally just today we were able to get the two pages that we needed that we
now know that Comey and McCabe did in fact say that general Flynn
you know the agents that interviewed general Flynn didn't think he was lying
now we listened to mr. Comey over the last three weeks run around saying just
the opposite so you have the judge saying that they're lying but the Moller
teams lying you now have the case where we now know that mr. Comey has been
lying out there publicly this continues to just I think that's been will during
quite frankly now congressman Jim Comey basically decided to override the agents
including Peter struck who you know we focus on Struck's techs with Lisa Paige
and maybe as an animus against President Trump but I believe unless I'm wrong I
believe Peter struck with one of the agents who interviewed Mike Flynn and we
had heard this from some time now confirm that Mike Flynn didn't lie Lisa
it was up to them meaning port Mike Flynn they had the twist of the screws
on him to please guilty to a false statement in order to
you know like a lot of people do save their family save their whatever money
they have left and and meanwhile Comey is going around saying no no no he lied
and this is what you know it's it's wild why would you this is the override the
agent this is my question well well look this isn't new news to us on the
Intelligence Committee this has been the problem of all these issues that they
keep classified from the American people so we knew this very shortly after the
interview took place mister the interview where the FBI agents went into
the White House and interviewed mr. Flynn shortly after that mr. Comey comes
in briefs us that's on the record I know he also briefed other committees so on
the record we knew what mr. Comey said we had the transcripts we have been
fighting with the Department of Justice and the FBI for six weeks to release
this information to the American people we finally have it tonight late on a
Friday night this is totally unacceptable you have the judge from
this morning this has just continued ridiculous behavior it's like they just
want to keep digging and the American people are beginning to understand that
the Department of Justice and the FBI have major problems I have no idea how
they can investigate themselves but evidently they continue to believe they
can but they have so many more documents that they have to provide to us that we
that we needed like yesterday and I hate to have to continue to come out publicly
and talk about this that we are still
yeah let's remind everyone a few weeks ago you were on the show I believe it
was a Friday night if my memory serves me correct maybe it was a Thursday night
and you essentially threatened rod Rosenstein with contempt of Congress or
impeachment if the underlying document the computer document that authorized
the probe of the spying on Carter page surveillance on Carter page wasn't
released he did finally then release that congressman Nunez however now
you're getting slammed in response by CNN and now others that you
are asked for these documents and then you Devon Nunez have a staffer read them
you don't read them so how serious are you you just want to help the president
you're not even reading the documents what about that CNN report that came out
today yeah so look I I enjoy being attacked the first thing I will tell you
is whatever CNN in The New York Times are write or talk about I don't read
their information I will tell you that we're not going to get into the
specifics about how we conduct our investigation but I will tell you Laura
and I've said this numerous times on your show and others is that mr. Gowdy
if our lead investigator mr. Gowdy is the one who reviews all the initial
documents with our investigators I'm not going to get into the processes that we
use that as the chairman of the committee when they need documents they
come to me we use the power that we have vested in us by the Constitution to try
to force the Department of Justice and the FBI to comply yeah I'm trying to
help our viewers understand this though when you're when they come after you and
say Nunez is is getting getting these documents I think a lot of people want
you to have these documents then you don't read them it opens you up to
criticism so I mean I don't understand why it compromises the investigation for
you to say I read the documents that are necessary
to do this investigation and I consult with my staff on the you know on the
primary documents but I read those so I don't understand why your reluctance to
say whether you read them or don't read them I don't get that well look this is
first of all what they're talking about there in that is is that it's a page and
a half what what specifically we were looking for and that as you may remember
is we are looking we're investigating the State Department we are looking for
any official intelligence that came across through the five eyes channels
that's what we were looking for that was not in the document so at that point at
this point we have other lines of inquiry that we're going down we have
subpoena out there and so you know this is this is why you know we can play
process games all the time but if they alt a long but at the end of the day
here yeah you know we continue to have our investigation
blocked we continue have to deal with the missing from disinformation
campaigns well I may and this is what the left always does just so I mean
everyone who watches this show understands because they've done it too
may they've tried to when you're effective and when you're holding people
accountable and if you are conservative or if you've ever supported the
president you are a target and so that's why you know all the articles floating
around about you and Paul Ryan should take you off the committee that was a
couple of weeks ago it's it's predictable I want to read for you a
comment by Eric Lichtblau about what's happened to the FBI he said many view
Trump's attacks as self-serving he's called the renowned agency an
embarrassment to our country and its investigations of its business and
political dealings as a witch-hunt but as much as the bureau's roughly fourteen
thousand special agents might like to tune out the news internal and external
reports have found lapses throughout the agency and longtime observers looking
past the partisan haze see a troubling picture something really is wrong at the
FBI now that's not Devon Nunez saying that that is a Lichtblau sang it yeah
this is what I've actually conveyed this to director Ray he has a tough tough job
to do he needs to clean the place up I've said this also publicly there we
don't see a systemic problem out in the field with field agents or with people
overseas that are doing very difficult work trying to track down terrorists and
other bad guys where we do see a problem is in Washington DC now - director Ray's
credit you have seen many of the Comey era people have been excused that's a
good sign okay would be even better is if director
ray made sure that we get this information that we need in a timely
manner congressman thank you so much for joining us tonight we really appreciate
it and here with reaction are two esteemed attorneys scott Bolden joins us
from Las Vegas along with Alan Dershowitz in New York he's the author
of the new book trumped-up how the criminalization of political differences
in dangers democracy great to see both of you thank you professor Dershowitz
judge Ellis you know him well I know him well
for a long time ago and I was litigator he's incredibly talented judge
he he pretty much calls balls and strikes 77 years old senior judge on the
Eastern District he just laid into the special counsels office
he's cantankerous he's known for that too but he laid into them there was a
one quote that I especially want to raise here he said I don't see what
relationship this indictment has against metaphor with anything the special
counsel is authorized to investigate it's unlikely you're going to persuade
me the special counsel has this unfettered power to do whatever he wants
look every criminal lawyer I know every experienced lawyer has known from the
beginning what's going on they're going after people like manna Ford and Flynn
and Cohen not because they have any interest in any of them they just want
to flip them they want to make them not only sing but as the judge put it in his
statement maybe even make them compose you know I think I came up with that
phrase he's composing instead of singing the judge was just saying what we all
have known right from the beginning the only difference between this judge and
other judges is this judge is completely and totally honest he calls it the way
he sees it he's absolutely right this is what's been going on the amazing thing
is that he called them on it he said to prosecutors essentially you can't do
that if you're a special counsel you have to go after directly the evidence
that's within your mandate you can't be finding people creating or exaggerating
or coming up with crimes not in order to get those people but in order to squeeze
them and get them to sing and compose it's about time a judge honestly looked
at the situation and assessed that you and I have been talking about this now
for months we shouldn't be surprised but it's surprising that and refreshing that
a federal judge will say that it also indicates what another point I made why
didn't Muller take this case out of Virginia and try to put it in Washington
DC because he knows that he would get more positive judges more positive
jurors in the District of Columbia then he would get in Virginia in Virginia
he's going to get judges like this who was straight in DC he's going to be
understand jury who a much much more anti-trump and so clearly that was judge
shopping jury shopping when I said that I was
the racist I was condemned congressman condemn me professors condemn me but I
think I think this opinion vindicates what I've been saying for a long long
time Scott he has we do have another aspect of the case that's still in DC I
think we might have just lost got there that is in DC and we'll get him back let
me know and it's Amy Berman Jackson professor Dershowitz who is a Obama
appointee and so she is she still hasn't ruled on the motion to dismiss but these
bank banking transactions go back to 2004 in 2007 and so Dreeben tries to
argue today saying well no this is within the scope of the investigation
any and he said I'll be the judge of that he's like I don't think so I'll be
the judge of that so in 2004 2007 an investigation that began in 2014 a
professor was somehow just just looked into the Muller investigation it is
ridiculous it's so patently obvious from the very beginning you were way ahead of
the curve on it well no and it's so important because what they're doing to
these people like manna Ford and Flynn and Cohen could happen to any of us if
we happen to be collateral damage if you know somebody who they're going after
they're gonna find something on you they're gonna squeeze you this is
something that has plagued the American justice system for many decades look if
they do it to get the Mafia maybe it's understandable if they do it to get
terrorists maybe it's understandable but to do it to get an elected President of
the United States somebody who I voted against but who's the elected President
of the United States to use that tactic the mafia terrorist tactic of squeezing
people and making them testify and making them sing and making them
composed in dangers the civil liberties of all Americans let's look at what
President Trump said today after he heard about the continuing conversation
about whether he should speak to a grand jury or be interviewed by Muller he made
these
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